Saturday, 25 March 2017

Born to do Math 18 – Choices in Worlds

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Born to do Math 18 - Choices in Worlds
Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner
March 25, 2017

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Rick Rosner: The universe - reflects what has clustered together and how it’s clustered together reflects – if you want to look at this way choices among multiple possible worlds, which isn’t a really helpful way of looking at it. The universe could’ve clustered in any number of ways. Maybe, anomalies in density. Maybe, different parts of the universe getting hit with photons more than other parts based on light emitting bodies like stars.

Things are pushed into clusters, collapse into clusters. The cluster you have 10^80th or so atoms in the universe. You have 10^58th stars or so in the universe. You a have 10^11th galaxies. At some point, there was some choice within a galaxy, say, about how exactly its matter and its 10^11th stars will be divvied up, whether molecule A or hydrogen atom A was going to end up falling into a dust cloud that would form this star.;

Or whether that hydrogen atom falls into another cloud that will condense into another star. There’s some choice in that clustering contains information. By just saying that, it doesn’t tell you that much. It’s also a good bet that memory in the universe—that the universe is able to store information by moving large structures to the outskirts of the universe where the time moves more slowly.

Close to an apparent T=0, there’s less interaction and things are frozen in a relativistic sense because time is dilated and there may be ways to do that time dilation thing within galaxies via gravitationally collapsed object. It may be able to hold onto stuff until its needed by tossing it into a black hole. But the whole idea of the universe understanding itself, the universe containing the information it contains runs into the problem of anthropomorphization.

We see things because we receive perceptual information through our senses and then we process it through thought and brain cells that are connected in such a way that they clarify what we’re seeing, which is sub-thought. And memory and various expert subsystems that provides various interpretations and clarifications about what we see. And we’re highly evolved beings with highly evolved toolkits in our brains. And if we say the universe is made of information, the universe has to understand that information, but there are no mechanisms along the lines of what we have in our brains for the brain to understand itself in any way that might be familiar to us.

Because the universe consists of chaotically boiling stars and swirling galaxies, and it’s not an evolved brain. It doesn’t have evolved structures for thinking. |Yet we’re still claiming that it is made of information, and thanks to the physics of the universe the universe is able to share information with itself and able to maintain order. So that sets out the problem: Where is the information? How does the universe understand it? How does the universe process t?


All without evolved structures for that. 

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Authors[1]
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Rick Rosner
American Television Writer
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Rick Rosner
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Scott Douglas Jacobsen
Editor-in-Chief, In-Sight Publishing
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In-Sight Publishing
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