## Friday, 8 September 2017

### Born to do Math 75 – Principia (Part 2)

Born to do Math 75 – Principia (Part 2)
Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner
September 8, 2017

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Rick Rosner: But it is not like the quantum world phenomena necessarily reflects the operations explicit in the macro world. I think you can draw helpful analogies, like the idea that every driver is like a black box, which is basically defensive driving. That driver is, to some extent, unpredictable.

Then you can base this on your experience of drivers in similar cars. You can assign a probability cloud to what people will do. Where a 1988 Cadillac driven by an old person will have a different probability cloud then a 2007 Audi driven by a 28-year-old guy with his satellite radio.

One is more likely to—the Audi is more likely to pull a dick move on you, to pull into your lane because your lane has fewer people in it. Whereas the 1988 Cadillac is more likely to be going under the speed limit or drifting out of lanes because the person driving the car is more careful.

There is the idea that every person having a ‘probability cloud’ associated with them, which is a fine analogy. But another issue can be making probability clouds too tight, at least in LA, where people can pull a dick move at any time.

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Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
American Television Writer
RickRosner@Hotmail.Com
Rick Rosner

Scott Douglas Jacobsen
Editor-in-Chief, In-Sight Publishing
Scott.D.Jacobsen@Gmail.Com
In-Sight Publishing
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## Friday, 1 September 2017

### Born to do Math 74 – Principia (Part 1)

Born to do Math 74 – Principia (Part 1)
Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner
September 1, 2017

[Beginning of recorded material]

Jacobsen: [Laughing].

Rosner: You can come up with a zillion. In the 70s, there was something about chlorophyll, which is plants absorbing light. What does toothpaste have to do about absorbing light?

Jacobsen: [Laughing] One was from Newton being a phallic representation of the universe, and the Principia as a rape manual [Laughing].

Rosner: You try to apply the Uncertainty Principle all over the place. The Uncertainty Principle inevitably disturbs the—you never get an undisturbed situation, but that is a purely quantum situation. You can draw analogies about it. There are certainly ways to draw analogies to things in the macro world.

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Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
American Television Writer
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Rick Rosner

Scott Douglas Jacobsen
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In-Sight Publishing
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## Tuesday, 22 August 2017

### Born to do Math 73 – Buffers, Far and Away, and Again

Born to do Math 73 – Buffers, Far and Away, and Again
Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner
August 22, 2017

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Scott Douglas Jacobsen: Two things come to mind from that. One is an older discussion, which I am recalling around “buffers” of order preservation in the universe at various scales. Another one is the utility of using an IC framework in general.

If you’re using an IC framework, there are distinctions that you can make between fields that are sufficient, so that misuse of terms outside of their proper field then makes non-sense. So, you may use sociological terminology in physics.

Rick Rosner: Feynman lived in the early era of media. He was pissed at modern advertising, which was being pissed at the loose use of the word “energy.” He had a precise meaning in the context of physics. He hated its use in advertising because it never referenced actual physical energy.

It always referred to some young woman because she was heavy and jumping up and down.

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Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
American Television Writer
RickRosner@Hotmail.Com
Rick Rosner

Scott Douglas Jacobsen
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In-Sight Publishing
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## Tuesday, 15 August 2017

### Born to do Math 72 – Photon, Photon, and Away!

Born to do Math 72 – Photon, Photon, and Away!
Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner
August 15, 2017

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Rick Rosner: In an expanding universe, a moving photon is moving away from – the farther and longer it travels then the more it is moving into the neighbourhoods of galaxies that are receding from its point of origin, so the longer it travels the faster the galaxies or the average expansion velocity of space is relative to where it came from.

So, it is going to be wretched. But that loss of energy—I just read that there are many more photons than there are massive particles. Particles that have rest mass. In every cubic centimetre, there are roughly 400 photons leftover from the Big Bang.

I guess from the Cosmic Microwave Background. Where the average number of massive particles is one proton for every cubic metre, so that means like 400 million times as many Big Bang photons or Cosmic Microwave photons as there are protons.

That doesn’t even include all the photons that have emitted since. Another place to hide disorder might be black holes. Where depending on what the rules for black holes are, I mean, Stephen Hawking and people like him have spent their careers debating the informational rules and black holes with regards to information.

Whether information is lost when stuff falls into a black hole, whether it eventually comes back out, does it come back out with any amount of information that went in, in any way? Under IC, black holes aren’t entirely black and can, maybe, be possibly seen as semi-independent information processors.

So, not only do they, they might be sources of order rather than additional information and order – rather than relentless black holes of information, constantly destroying whatever gets close enough to fall into them. So, one narrative framework for IC is that it might be good for talking about the universe in the context of the universe being an order-generating system in contrast to the random doomed-to-have-zero-information of the 20th century. That’s it.

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Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
American Television Writer
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Rick Rosner

Scott Douglas Jacobsen
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In-Sight Publishing
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## Tuesday, 8 August 2017

### Born to do Math 71 – Big Crunch Theories

Born to do Math 71 – Big Crunch Theories
Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner
August 8, 2017

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Rick Rosner: Then you have Big Crunch theories of the universe where everything collapses back in on itself, everything heats up because everything comes back together, but it is one other means of order eradicating everything. There isn’t any big time 20th century Big Bang theories of the universe that support the growth or preservation of order throughout the universe indefinitely.

Which feels right to people because it basically says there’s no free lunch anywhere, and you can’t win, say that under IC, IC would be a good framework for talking about the negentropic universe. A universe in which order can increase.

Where the order in the universe does increase due to the gravitational clumping or the clustering of matter, and where waste heat and noise can be sequestered or absorbed, with the result being that you have a net increase in order, which means that the universe isn’t a closed thermodynamic system.

You have places where waste heat is either converted into something else or is hidden, so that it is not a thermodynamically disruptive and entropic deal, one way energy can be absorbed and turned into order is the loss of energy by long-distance photons.

With the absorption by space by photons that travel billions of light years, where it is the Hubble Shift, where the farther away a photon comes from, then the less energy it has, apparently, because it is climbing up a—

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Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
American Television Writer
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Rick Rosner

Scott Douglas Jacobsen
Editor-in-Chief, In-Sight Publishing
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In-Sight Publishing
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## Tuesday, 1 August 2017

### Born to do Math 70 – Heat Death

Born to do Math 70 – Heat Death
Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner
August 1, 2017

[Beginning of recorded material]

Rick Rosner: You’ve got the heat death of the universe, which is a universe that keeps going and expanding. A heat death to the universe doesn’t mean that the universe ends up hottish. It means that there are no available sources of energy.

That the universe is at the same temperature, which is going to be low because it is going to be trillions of years in the future. All the sources of energy have been used or burned, and then expelled as waste heat to the point where everything is the same temperature and you can’t pull energy out of anything.

When everything is the same temperature, there’s nothing left to burn. Everything is lukewarm.

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Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
American Television Writer
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Rick Rosner

Scott Douglas Jacobsen
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Scott.D.Jacobsen@Gmail.Com
In-Sight Publishing
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## Saturday, 22 July 2017

### Born to do Math 69 – Change in Mind

Born to do Math 69 – Change in Mind
Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner
July 22, 2017

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Scott Douglas Jacobsen: It is social reinforcement. It is not just that these physical characteristics are dramatically influenced by genetics. It is also that it is shaping our minds as well. So, our evaluative structures for what is attractive change over time in proportion to that physical structure change in our minds.

Rick Rosner: There are levels of explanation that are more useful or convenient depending on what you’re doing with the thing you’re analyzing and your explanations – if you’re writing a spec. sitcom script—your operative explanations are going to be different than if you’re doing a study on the neurochemistry of love.

Unless, you’re a great writer and can get jokes out of neurochemistry. With regards to IC and information cosmology, the most applicable set of explanations, if it is true, in one area that I’ll risk saying that it has a possibility of being true is whether the universe is entropic or not.

The Second law of Thermodynamics is the one that everyone talks about. It is the interesting one to the point that it is not interesting to talk about at all. It says in a closed system only disorder can increase. So, the energy you expend cleaning a messy room is greater – the heat you generate is a greater force of disorder at a thermodynamic level – than the energy you spent stacking up your crap.

You cannot win. You cannot ever increase the order of a closed system. That seems like the dominant idea of order in the universe. I’d say for most of the 20th century. Where you have local outbreaks of order on Earth, where order and complexity increase, maybe throughout the universe, but the models of the universe have it winding down one way or another back into complete disorder and chaos, or just a complete lack of useable energy by the end of time.

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Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
American Television Writer
RickRosner@Hotmail.Com
Rick Rosner

Scott Douglas Jacobsen
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Scott.D.Jacobsen@Gmail.Com
In-Sight Publishing
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## Saturday, 15 July 2017

### Born to do Math 68 – XX/XY

Born to do Math 68 – XX/XY
Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner
July 15, 2017

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Scott Douglas Jacobsen: That seems to me like one half of the signification. If people are looking for the short-term partner, depending upon the reference there, which appears to be innate.

Rick Rosner: …People are just looking for easily understood because they are babies at knowing what they want.

Jacobsen: I think that is the same, functionally. It is based on innate hardware. Over time, men statistically do not change their preferences over time. Women do. Women look for different signifiers of status, resourcefulness, emotional stability, and so on, rather than the symmetries and signifiers of health that you were mentioning before.

I think there are various aspects of that. People like to say men and women; others like to say spectrum, but it is more a bimodal distribution along XX/XY.

Rosner: You can bring this back to sociobiology with eggs expensive and sperm cheap, and knocking somebody up is expensive. In high school, most people are not much into raising a family. They don’t take that into consideration.

Later, that may become, depending on how your society is structured, more important to women than to men. Also, men masturbate more than women. So, men are constantly going back to the things that help them have orgasms.

[End of recorded material]
Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
American Television Writer
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Rick Rosner

Scott Douglas Jacobsen
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In-Sight Publishing
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## Saturday, 8 July 2017

### Born to do Math 67 – Fit with Status

Born to do Math 67 – Fit with Status
Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner
July 8, 2017

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Rick Rosner: Then there is a principle behind that, which is that people whose features are easily decoded might be more beautiful. You can view these features as valuable. Asymmetry is often a symptom of lack of sexual or reproductive fitness.

If someone has a droopy face, for instance, or something on their body, people are analysing attractiveness, but if you’re writing a spec. sitcom among high school freshman. You don’t need to necessarily go into the various framings of things.

It is just hot-on-hot. People have been using the football player and cheerleader shorthand forever. Now, it is totally hack, but if you want to write about that stuff – then you might do the exact same deal. Except with cheerleader and football player, it could be the modern equivalent. What would be the modern equivalent?

Scott Douglas Jacobsen: A fit person with high status.

Rosner: Something equivalent to a fit person in 1980 with status then and now. It is somebody who is physically healthy and attractive. It is not necessarily anything beyond that.

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Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
American Television Writer
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Rick Rosner

Scott Douglas Jacobsen
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In-Sight Publishing
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## Saturday, 1 July 2017

### Born to do Math 67 – Looks

Born to do Math 67 – Looks
Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner
July 1, 2017

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Rick Rosner: Everyone, as they’re trying to feel out their place, has hot on hot as the safest bet. So, people don’t know what they’re doing yet. When people get older, you can call it “settling” or “becoming more sophisticated” or some combination plus some other stuff.

Where people learn to value other stuff than pure hotness or coolness, they learn the purely hot or cool may be nightmares. Also, there is also what makes being hot or being cool is something that needs to be taken back to a demonstration of reproductive health.

The more physical features that replicate reflect other features that represent reproductive fitness too. If you look at butts, and other things that look like them, then they can look like an amalgam monster of reproductive health.

There are fractal theories of patterns that are repeated in people, where those repetitions in shapes over and over on their body might be more beautiful than someone who doesn’t have that, which is semi-BS.

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Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
American Television Writer
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Rick Rosner

Scott Douglas Jacobsen
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Scott.D.Jacobsen@Gmail.Com
In-Sight Publishing
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## Thursday, 22 June 2017

### Born to do Math 66 – Helen Fisher

Born to do Math 66 – Helen Fisher
Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner
June 22, 2017

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Scott Douglas Jacobsen: The frames can be mixed up too. There’s a biological anthropologist named Helen Fisher. She studies love. She studies long-term love with three separate concepts, but then ties this to different personalities and different dominant neural circuits, and the neurotransmitters, associated with it.

She has this nice scaling up. She applies this to statistical models. O believe she has been an advisor for Match.com. There are cool things that you can do. But I think it also helps separate the “wheat from the chaff.” You can differentiate that kind of anthropological work and biological work from pseudo-work like the Law of Attraction.

That appear to be popular in America and are bogus.

Rosner: You mean Oprah’s The Secret. You think positive thoughts and so on. Yea, that’s just bullshit. There are actual mechanisms for making it happen. There are all sorts of ways of talking about falling in love. You can talk abut evolutionary theory and sociobiology.

There is shorthand stuff, like for middle school or high school. Hot people will hook up with each other. IN 8th grade and 9th grade, the pioneers in hooking up are, for the most part, the very coolest kids. They have the highest demonstrated value.

[End of recorded material]
Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
American Television Writer
RickRosner@Hotmail.Com
Rick Rosner

Scott Douglas Jacobsen
Editor-in-Chief, In-Sight Publishing
Scott.D.Jacobsen@Gmail.Com
In-Sight Publishing
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## Thursday, 15 June 2017

### Born to do Math 65 – Errol Morris

Born to do Math 65 – Errol Morris
Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner
June 15, 2017

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Scott Douglas Jacobsen: Do you remember when we were talking about Errol Morris a little while ago?

Rick Rosner: Yup.

Jacobsen: So, his idea of the framing of a photo. Usually, when talking about a universe of discourse, it is a well-defined set of parameters for discussion on a topic within traditionally well-defined fields. IC lenses are fuzzy lenses, it is continually keeping in mind what is outside of the frame in a fuzzy way.

If it is biology, you understand, at the end of the day, that this has an underlying root in physics. It is just that this is a more convenient way to talk about this scale of organization. So, you use these scales and these stories.

Rosner: Yea, you talk about couples falling in love with mating behaviours rather than the biology or chemistry of it with the release of serotonin. You could go farther with out serotonin and dopamine work to regulate synaptic whatever, and then you can take it further and further down into the constituent molecules, but at that point you’ve gone way too far.

You are way out of the context of couples forming for most discussions. Some people’s jobs are to talk about the chemistry and biology and feelings of falling in love, but you don’t need to go that far when you’re talking about falling in love – within a…

If you’re asking someone for help about how to write a romantic comedy, the chemistry and biology may not come up.

[End of recorded material]
Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
American Television Writer
RickRosner@Hotmail.Com
Rick Rosner

Scott Douglas Jacobsen
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Scott.D.Jacobsen@Gmail.Com
In-Sight Publishing
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## Thursday, 8 June 2017

### Born to do Math 64 – IC Narratives

Born to do Math 64 – IC Narratives
Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner
June 8, 2017

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Scott Douglas Jacobsen: One thing from IC are narratives or stories that describes things relevant to your informational framework.

Rick Rosner: That may just be a general idea from philosophy. If you want to explain something, then you want to explain something that is most appropriate to the context, where people expect that all of biology and all of chemistry will eventually be able to be boiled down or eventually built up from physics.

That includes that we as natural humans do. So, physics would not only include the hard sciences but the soft sciences like psychology. You can run this back to how atoms behave. That kind of idea that everything would boil down to physics probably inspires some people to be fearful that biology and chemistry would go away.

That probably wouldn’t be the case. You mentioned – off-tape – a universe of discourse, which probably means everything gets its own context.

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Rick Rosner
American Television Writer
RickRosner@Hotmail.Com
Rick Rosner

Scott Douglas Jacobsen
Editor-in-Chief, In-Sight Publishing
Scott.D.Jacobsen@Gmail.Com
In-Sight Publishing
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## Thursday, 1 June 2017

### Born to do Math 63 – More on the Reasons

Born to do Math 63 – More on the Reasons
Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner
June 1, 2017

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Rick Rosner: If the universe - if particles  are made of - is made of information, then why? Why do we have to think that? Particles can be made of anything, at least in naive first glance. Why information?

Without going into some rock bottom foundation philosophical thinking, one why is particles must be made of information because that is what they appear to be made out of. That there are a lot of fundamental particles or elementary particles or subatomic particles.

That are nakedly just information. that don't have any moving parts. That aren't anything but the mathematical description of what they are: photons, electrons - don't have, as far as we know or all evidence, smaller constituent elements.

Protons and neutrons have been found to be not fundamental. Protons and neutrons have been shown to consist of quarks plus the particles that hold the quarks together. So they are kind of complicated, but electrons appear to be just point-wise particles.

That exist in the form of probability clouds.

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Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
American Television Writer
RickRosner@Hotmail.Com
Rick Rosner

Scott Douglas Jacobsen
Editor-in-Chief, In-Sight Publishing
Scott.D.Jacobsen@Gmail.Com
In-Sight Publishing
Endnotes
[1] Four format points for the session article:
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