Friday 1 March 2019

Born to do Math 110 - Floridian Informational Meridian

Born to do Math 110 - Floridian Informational Meridian
Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner
March 1, 2019

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Scott Douglas Jacobsen: One of my favorite Florida Man stories – the world’s worst superhero. Man murders an imaginary friend and turns himself in [Laughing]. That one really tickled me.
Rick Rosner: Most Florida Man stories, your immediate handle on most of them is that people are dumb, especially in Florida.
Jacobsen: 2/3ds of their mentally ill go untreated. It is a funny representation but also a serious issue. 
Rosner: You start with the idea that people are frickin' idiots. Then you have to dig down for as many stories of the guy. You go online and see if you can find stories that are more in-depth. Eventually, you either find more details you start fleshing it out yourself.
That is a lonely guy. He’s got an imaginary friend. He’s got anger issues, perhaps. You can make all these guesses as to what is going in the guy’s black box of a brain. It is going to be the same thing with humans, augmented humans, and machine learning. It will be different black boxes talking to one another.
Jacobsen: It will be two types of black boxes. Evolved things, they are bound to simply a dynamic life. They have development, decrepitude, and death. The artificially constructed ones, they may be dynamic. They could in their software. But, in general, they are static in their registration, in their information processing.
Rosner: We will begin to see a whole zoo of what you are calling “static” and “dynamic.” It will be a while before Google Translate begins to manifest explicitly conscious behavior. But it is not impossible to imagine.
Where you could imagine a busybody Google Translate, you are trying to translate from English to Russian. The system uses its accumulated experience of the world. Although, it may not be conscious.
It begins to accumulate an unconscious knowledge of what people want when they’re searching or typing, “Yea, you may not want that word, schmucko.” It may complete thoughts, “You may not have thought of Schadenfreude. Have you heard of Schadenfreude, bro?”
Jacobsen: [Laughing].
Rosner: We certainly know it is possible machine learning things to manifest as rudimentary busybodiness. That can be somewhat mistaken for conscious understanding. But at some point, when the machine understanding and the super-duper-busybodiness gets super-duper-powerful, you might be able to reasonably supposed that it is a non-zero level of conscious living in the system.
It would help to develop a mathematics of consciousness, whether we do it or someone else does it. It would be good to have a mathematics of consciousness. It would be good to get a picture, a rough picture, of the level of understanding within machine systems.
Whether that level of understanding is functionally conscious or not, once you get to consciousness, it is the establishment of a central information processing arena for new information that is sufficiently new, sufficiently complicated; that it can’t be dealt unconsciously.
It is informationally efficient to throw it into the central conscious arena. At some point, a system that is on a computational budget. As it becomes more and more complicated, it is reasonable that there would be an emergent economy that says, “This new information is most likely to be productively processed if our system had a central arena where that information is presented to all the subsystems in our overall system for some kind of global analysis.”
It is a kind of information processing efficiency. Many actors are involved in it. You earn points, existence points in an evolved creature by figuring out what is going on. You are paid for understanding. We get paid for understanding the world for continued existence and some other stuff.
If you understand the stock market, you get paid stuff. If you get good at social life, you get social points.
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Rick Rosner

American Television Writer
Rick Rosner

According to semi-reputable sources, Rick Rosner has the world’s second-highest IQ. He earned 12 years of college credit in less than a year and graduated with the equivalent of 8 majors. He has received 8 Writers Guild Award and Emmy nominations, and was named 2013 North American Genius of the Year by The World Genius Registry.

He has written for Remote ControlCrank YankersThe Man ShowThe EmmysThe Grammys, and Jimmy Kimmel Live!. He worked as a bouncer, a nude art model, a roller-skating waiter, and a stripper. In a television commercial, Domino’s Pizza named him the "World’s Smartest Man." The commercial was taken off the air after Subway sandwiches issued a cease-and-desist. He was named "Best Bouncer" in the Denver Area, Colorado, by Westwood Magazine.

Rosner spent much of the late Disco Era as an undercover high school student. 25 years as a bar bouncer, American fake ID-catcher, 25+ years as a stripper, and nearly 30 years as a writer for more than 2,500 hours of network television. He came in second or lost on Jeopardy!, sued Who Wants to Be a Millionaire over a flawed question and lost the lawsuit. He won one game and lost one game on Are You Smarter Than a Drunk Person? (He was drunk). He spent 37+ years working on a time invariant variation on the Big Bang Theory. 

Currently, Rosner sits tweeting in a bathrobe (winter) or a towel (summer). He lives in Los Angeles, California with his wife, dog, and goldfish. He and his wife have a daughter. You can send him or questions at LanceversusRick@Gmail.Com, or a direct message via Twitter, or find him on LinkedIn, or see him on YouTube.

Scott Douglas Jacobsen

Editor-in-Chief, In-Sight Publishing
In-Sight Publishing

(Updated September 28, 2016)

Scott Douglas Jacobsen founded In-Sight: Independent Interview-Based Journal and In-Sight Publishing. He authored/co-authored some e-books, free or low-cost. If you want to contact Scott:, Scott.Jacobsen@TrustedClothes.Com, Scott@ConatusNews.Com,, Scott@Karmik.Ca, or SJacobsen@AlmasJiwaniFoundation.Org.

He is a Moral Courage Webmaster and Outreach Specialist (Fall, 2016) at the UCI Interdisciplinary Center for the Scientific Study of Ethics and Morality (Ethics Center), Interview Columnist for Conatus News, Writer and Executive Administrator for Trusted Clothes, Interview Columnist for Basic Income Earth Network (BIEN), Chair of Social Media for the Almas Jiwani Foundation, Councillor for the Athabasca University Student Union, Member of the Learning Analytics Research Group, writer for The Voice MagazineYour Political Party of BCProBCMarijuana Party of CanadaFresh Start Recovery CentreHarvest House Ministries, and Little Footprints Big Steps International Development Organization, Editor and Proofreader for Alfred Yi Zhang Photography, Community Journalist/Blogger for Gordon Neighbourhood House, Member-at-Large, Member of the Outreach Committee, the Finance & Fundraising Committee, and the Special Projects & Political Advocacy Committee, and Writer for Canadian Students for Sensible Drug Policy, Member of the Lifespan Cognition Psychology Lab and IMAGe Psychology Lab, Collaborator with Dr. Farhad Dastur in creation of the CriticalThinkingWiki, Board Member, and Foundation Volunteer Committee Member for the Fraser Valley Health Care Foundation, and Independent Landscaper.

He was a Francisco Ayala Scholar at the UCI Ethics Center, Member of the Psychometric Society Graduate Student Committee, Special Advisor and Writer for ECOSOC at NWMUN, Writer for TransplantFirstAcademy and ProActive Path, Member of AT-CURA Psychology Lab, Contributor for a student policy review, Vice President of Outreach for the Almas Jiwani Foundation, worked with Manahel Thabet on numerous initiatives, Student Member of the Ad–Hoc Executive Compensation Review Committee for the Athabasca University Student Union, Volunteer and Writer for British Columbia Psychological Association, Community Member of the KPU Choir (even performed with them alongside the Vancouver Symphony Orchestra), Delegate at Harvard World MUN, NWMUN, UBC MUN, and Long Beach Intercollegiate MUN, and Writer and Member of the Communications Committee for The PIPE UP Network.

He published in American Enterprise InstituteAnnaborgiaConatus NewsEarth Skin & EdenFresh Start Recovery CentreGordon Neighbourhood HouseHuffington PostIn-Sight: Independent Interview-Based JournalJolly DragonsKwantlen Polytechnic University Psychology DepartmentLa Petite MortLearning Analytics Research GroupLifespan Cognition Psychology LabLost in SamaraMarijuana Party of CanadaMomMandyNoesis: The Journal of the Mega SocietyPiece of MindProduction ModeSynapseTeenFinancialThe PeakThe UbysseyThe Voice MagazineTransformative DialoguesTreasure Box KidsTrusted Clothes.


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