Born to do Math: April 2017

Sunday, 30 April 2017

Born to do Math 54 – Metaprimes (Part 20)

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Born to do Math 54 - Metaprimes (Part 20)

Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner

April 30, 2017

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Rick Rosner: You can set up an information space to see how these variables correlate with each other and the dependent variable that you’re trying to suss out, which is success in college. Some variables are going to be less correlated with each other in this N-space than others. Let’s say geographic location or latitude – or longitude—say longitude and college grade point, it will be all over the place.

If any correlated at all, it will depend on if the kid grows up in a city or a rural area. Cities and rural areas are not randomly scattered, but scattered throughout the country, so longitude will not be any indicator of academic success. You can reduce the dimension of your N-variable because that is a crap predictor. Ideally, what you’d want to do is boil down the complicated N-space into a more compact thing in N-space.

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Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
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Scott Douglas Jacobsen
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Saturday, 29 April 2017

Born to do Math 53 – Metaprimes (Part 19)

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Born to do Math 53 – Metaprimes (Part 19)
Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner
April 29, 2017

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Rick Rosner: The alternate IC interpretation is all of that stuff still happens, but protons represent some nugget of information – say a variable that contains its own axis. Loose protons out in the universe or ionized protons out in a cloud out with ionized electrons, so it’s an energetic cloud.

They are only loosely linked via proximity to the other ionized particles in the cloud, but a lot of gravitational energy has yet to be released. These axes are each represented by a proton. These variables are free to vary in the same way as if you had two things not strongly correlated. It is statistics.

N-dimensional information spaces, say you have the n-variables that might predict how well a kid can succeed in college. You can probably come up with 20 variables that might have an impact, SAT scores, GPA, parental income, age within the school year – whether December or April being born, extra-curriculars and what ones.

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Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
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Friday, 28 April 2017

Born to do Math 52 – Metaprimes (Part 18)

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Born to do Math 52 - Metaprimes (Part 18)

Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner

April 28, 2017

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Rick Rosner: Stars, it is easy to fuse raw protons, which are Hydrogen nuclei, together. The easiest thing to do in a star is to fuse Hydrogen into Deuterium, Tritium, and then Helium. Mostly. That takes the least amount of pressure. It takes more pressure to turn Helium into stuff. As stars cook down, they do a lot of stuff. They cool down, expand, and sometimes blow off the outer shell. Depending on how much the various elements are in the star depending on the size of the star, some stars can hang up to the point where they are almost entirely Oxygen and Carbon.

That’s a smaller star. A bigger star, the one the size of our Sun can keep cooking until it is almost entirely Iron. But at some point, there’s no more energy to be gained from being further cooked down and smushed down. Most stars stop, but some bigger stars can keep going to become neutron stars, and can be mushed down – probably not the right thing to say – and they are kind of one big nucleus.

Other stars can keep going from that point until they are a blackish hole. Iron is the last element that you can produce as a huge percentage of the mass of a star. The elements beyond Iron are kind of produced in like artisanal batches by supernova explosives, where the pressure wave pushes through heavy nuclei and smushes them further together, but the curve of binding energy. It is the curve of how much energy it takes per nucleon – per proton and neutron—

It is the binding energy there is released for each nucleon in that nucleus. It reaches a peak at Iron. To get any heavier elements, you will not be creating energy. There will not be any large scale burning. That’s how heavier elements are formed, in the interior of stars as they boil themselves down and then explode.

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Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
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Thursday, 27 April 2017

Born to do Math 51 – Metaprimes (Part 17)

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Born to do Math 51 - Metaprimes (Part 17)

Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner

April 27, 2017

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Scott Douglas Jacobsen: Why elements, or heavy elements, in an IC universe?

Rick Rosner: If IC is true-ish, you have to answer “Why heavy elements”? from two perspectives. You have to answer it under the Big Bang and the IC perspectives. Some elements formed from protons smashing together in the early history of the universe. You know, the first few seconds, where you have a ratio of 12 Hydrogen atoms to every Helium atom to small percentages of Lithium and Beryllium.

Everything else has to form within the interior of a star, where things cook down under huge pressure. Stars run from fusion. Fusion is protons being fused together into heavier and heavier nuclei. When two protons are fused together into heavier nuclei, into Deuterium, one of the protons flips into a neutron, which is basically what happens in all of fusion. When you have proton-rich matter that gets smushed into heavier and heavier nuclei, and more and more protons get flipped into neutrons, there is energy released from each act of fusion.

Because it takes, naively, energy to pull a nucleus apart, which means that when you put a nucleus together you release energy. It is in a lower energy state than when its contents were separate. You mush two protons or you mush two nuclei together into a bigger nuclei. You generally release energy because that combined thing is in a lower energy state. That’s what power stars.

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Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
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Wednesday, 26 April 2017

Born to do Math 50 – Metaprimes (Part 16)

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Born to do Math 50 - Metaprimes (Part 16)

Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner

April 26, 2017

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Rick Rosner: By working locally, you can achieve a lot of efficiency without achieving optimal efficiency.

Scott Douglas Jacobsen: That’s funny. Maybe, that’s the reason for segmentation into relatively definite structures at various scales in the universe.

RR: Yea, I mean, the interactions among particles have highly local aspects. Where you can envision two atoms, you have two atoms. They are a centimeter apart. You can picture on atom emits photon and the absorbs it. You can draw a line between the atoms based on the photon exchange. Feynman says or anyone good at quantum mechanics says you can draw the line, but it takes place across all of space and time.

So optimization in space and time reflected in the structure of space and time is mostly local, but that the optimization is good but imperfect, which makes sense in that it reflects a sloppy universe that we live in.

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Rick Rosner
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Tuesday, 25 April 2017

Born to do Math 49 – Metaprimes (Part 15)

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Born to do Math 49 – Metaprimes (Part 15)

Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner

April 25, 2017

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Rick Rosner: You can start to build a time out of association. Where you’ve got atom A and atom B interacting a lot, we also see that atom B and atom C interact a lot. But as you look the different interactors, that you can further order things so that you can make further efficiencies because A and B may interact a lot at a given time and A and C may interact a lot at a different time.

I don’t know how you pull time out of it. Anyway, the universe is built on space and time, and space and time are built on efficient arrangements of association, of highly associated particles.

Scott Douglas Jacobsen: So they’re aren’t maximally then, as a closing statement, but they are optimally efficient given various constraints.

RR: They are sloppily efficient. You’ve got these interactions. You have these informational efficiencies and rules for informational efficiency, or for the efficient structuring of space based on the interactions – space and time based on associative interactions. Based on interactions, which are themselves associative, those—you can assume that there’s going to be some of those principles of ordering space and time are going to be efficient without being maximally efficient.

Because they probably depend on local efficiencies. But there is a multi-model approach here too. You can represent the information here in various ways. There’s that underlying efficiency.

SDJ: There are the higher-order efficiencies too.

RR: There’s the “Travelling Salesman Problem” or the salesperson problem. You have to figure out the order of cities that minimizes the overall distance the salesperson has to travel. It turns out to be a problem that blows up computationally the more cities that you have. There’s not an algorithm that can find you the overall shortest distance without doing a huge amount of calculation.

Let’s say, and I don’t know the math exactly, this is probably not the case, but computationally it is similar to the case that you have to look at all 11 factorial paths. 12 factorial path, among the cities to find the shortest one, that is a number that blows up hugely when you go to 20 cities and 100 cities. To find the absolute shortest path would eat up a lot of computer time.

But there are some algorithms that find you some good paths based on just comparing a few cities at a time, like 3 or 4 and building the shortest path among those 4 proximate cities, then the next 4 proximate cities until you’ve established a locally minimal path among each set.

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Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
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Scott Douglas Jacobsen
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Monday, 24 April 2017

Born to do Math 48 – Metaprimes (Part 14)

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Born to do Math 48 - Metaprimes (Part 14)

Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner

April 24, 2017

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Rick Rosner: They’re all just little Tinker Toy parts. It is a handshake between atom A and atom B. There are 10^160^th of these handshakes. How are you going to arrange them sensibly? Well, you can start grouping them by – you may notice that as you shuffle the contents of the bag – certain pairs of atoms. They may have exchanged 10^7^th photons. You find that many handshakes between two particular atoms.

You find a bunch. Then you find a bunch of other interactions where they’ve had only 1 handshake in your bag between A and B. You set all of the sets of handshakes. You set all of the combinations of 10 million handshakes with each other into one pile. These are ones that are heavily related to each other or associated with each other. On top of that, you decide in our universe that the more interactions that two particular atoms have with each other, then the closer we’ll put them.

It minimizes something. It minimizes the distance that photons have to travel in the space that we’re constructing because the more associated things are then the closer we’ll put them together and that’s an efficiency. You can build something out of that association.

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Rick Rosner
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Sunday, 23 April 2017

Born to do Math 47 - Metaprimes (Part 13)

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Born to do Math 47 - Metaprimes (Part 13)

Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner

April 23, 2017

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Rick Rosner: The clumping is—if you have a library of interactions or the set of all interactions in your system, space and time are ways of orienting those handshakes between particles in such a way that the total aggregate distance is minimized. In the space that’s established, particles that do a lot of interacting with each other are going to be closer to each other. It minimizes the distance of these interactions when they’re a lot of them.

If those particles are interactions a lot, you put them close together to minimize the distance in the space the interactions are creating, and minimizes the time the photons have to travel. A reasonable arrangement of space minimizes space-time, basically. It puts things closely associated with each other close to each other in space and time.

Scott Douglas Jacobsen: So the mass in a given cubic volume of space can imply the amount of information or information processing potential. The greater the mass in a particular volume, then the greater probability for high levels of information processing; the lower the mass in a particular volume, then the lower the probability for high levels of information processing.

RR: I guess so. Another way of looking at it. There is no essential difference between two atoms a millimeter apart exchanging a photon and two atoms that are 10 billion light years apart exchanging a photon. There are huge differences, but there are some essential similarities. For one, in both instances, the photon experiences zero time in transit between the atoms.

SDJ: Yes.

RR: because photons travel at the speed of light. Something travelling at the speed of light doesn’t experience space or time. It sees space as infinitely compacted and time as infinitely dilated. If a photon were able to experience the world, it would leave one atom and arrive at another atom a blink of nothingness. It wouldn’t be traversing any space or any time.

SDJ: But relative to space, the time it takes for exchange for photon contact with whatever the thing is proportional to the relevance of the information. So the farther away something is in the universe, then the less relevant something is, mutually.

RR: Say you’ve got a bag that has 10^140^th photon exchanges. You’re trying to arrange those things in an efficient way. They’re all the same. They are a photon leaving one atom and hitting another atom. The bag is your universe, even 10^160^th interactions. You build a universe. Build a universe that makes sense. All of these interactions are basically the same.

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Rick Rosner
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Saturday, 22 April 2017

Born to do Math 46 – Metaprimes (Part 12)

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Born to do Math 46 – Metaprimes (Part 12)

Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner

April 22, 2017

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Rick Rosner: You’ve got tacit and present information. I don’t know if they are sharp divisions or exactly how they work in the universe. Obviously, each coin in the universe is processing based on its vantage point, on what it sees. What it sees is what radiates at it at any given instant, the radiation can take various forms. It’s probably by, if you’re going to do a census of the radiation passing through a point in space that may or may not have matter in it, I would assume most of the radiation would consist of photons.

You would still have a lot of neutrinos. If matter in that space, you have lots of evanescent particles like pions and gluons. Stuff that keeps track of keeps nuclei together. You’ve got both virtual particles and real particles. Virtual particles, you could consider maybe even a different form of tacit information. A sea of understoodness that provides a base of framework in which the real particles can have their interactions.

So you’ve got those forms of information. Then you’ve got the manifestations of those information. One large manifestation is the distribution of matter in space. The clumps you see when you look out at the universe. The nuclei and the distribution of molecules and crystals, the Solar System, galactic clusters, galactic arms – which are temporary clusterings of stars, then galaxies and clumps of galaxies and filaments of galaxies at the largest scales.

There’s information in all that clumping. I assume that the mega-clumping, the macro clumping, is or provides information that can fit into the history hopper if you’re going to provide classified information by historical, tacit, or present information. That clumping represents a vast history. Then you’ve got the flux through space of photons and other particles. Though it is a sloppy division because it is the flux of particles through space that provides the information about the clumping that you see.

You don’t see anything without the flux, without see the distance radiation of the universe.

Scott Douglas Jacobsen: That’s where the main associative part comes in. No connection between parts, micro and macro, in the universe and no information processing there, in the major way at least.

RR: Yea. So that’s pretty much it. You can stipulate or say that one thing that is going on is that things that are clumped together and closely associated with each other have more interactions with each other. A clump of atoms or a given cubic inch of ionized atoms in the center of the Sun will more mutual interaction with each other per second than an atom in the center of the Sun than an atom in 10 billion light years away.

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Friday, 21 April 2017

Born to do Math 45 – Metaprimes (Part 11)

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Born to do Math 45 - Metaprimes (Part 11)

Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner

April 21, 2017

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Rick Rosner: Another thing is where the information might be in the universe. I tried to systematize it. I see three types of information. Although, this is not an inclusive list. This is what sloppily comes to mind. Information based on history. That’s kind of past information. I don’t know if that is its own category because that’s macro stuff. Particles to a great extent themselves do not have a history or a capacity for history.

Looking at protons or electrons in isolation, you can assume certain things about their history. But electrons look all the same. To a great extent, protons look the same, but you can look at their guts. You can look at their fleeting internal configurations, probably detect them. But not much history, the history they do have is fleeting. Any history you find in the universe is a reflection of what’s happened and is accessible in the present will be at the particle level.

Then you have tacit information, which is things happening in the universe that don’t disrupt other things in the universe. The lack of disruption means that the universe is assuming those things happened anyway. Then you have present information, which is you have things in the universe happening and disturbing other parts in the universe – whether that part is ten angstroms away or 10 light years away.

It is the adjustment of the universe to new information and other things happening in the universe. So tacit and present information work together. It is the unfolding and incorporating of information into the universe. If there’s—basically there’s this particle flux through space, where every millimeter of space has a gazillion photons flowing through it at any given instant. Those photons are either going to hit something and cause an absorption in space or not.

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Thursday, 20 April 2017

Born to do Math 44 - Metaprimes (Part 10)

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Born to do Math 44 - Metaprimes (Part 10)

Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner

April 20, 2017

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Rick Rosner: There’s an idea or a shade of meaning that you know pretty precisely, but there’s no one word that hits close enough to be satisfying. So you either have to string words together o better ou abandon that precision and go, “Well, who gives a crap? It’ll be close enough.” What’s weird about the world is that close enough is good enough, we reach out to grab something. Our reach and our grasp is sloppy and never infinitely precise, but we can still grab stuff.

The universe tolerates imprecision. None of our actions are infinitely precise. Yet, we can still do stuff. That’s due to the macro-structure of the world where you’re not trying to line up one atom in your finger precisely over one atom of the thing you’re trying to grab. The diameter of your finger is – I don’t know – 10^8^th atoms wide and the thing you’re grabbing if it’s a grape is also that—

If you grab that grape a 100 times, your average or the average offness—or standard deviation of where you grab that grape might be 10^5^th atoms or 10^6^th atoms or more, but every time you are able to pick up the grape because you can pick up these even with this vast imprecision. We are macro things in a macro world and that macroness allows us to exist and over a long period of time as opposed to things on a micro level because they are incompletely defined in the world.

Our macroness allows us to exist and to interact with other macro stuff.

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Wednesday, 19 April 2017

Born to do Math 43 - Metaprimes (Part 9)

In-Sight Publishing
Born to do Math 43 - Metaprimes (Part 9)

Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner

April 19, 2017

[Beginning of recorded material]

Scott Douglas Jacobsen: Also, off-tape, we were talking. What you were describing in things, it brought Gödel to mind. His two incompleteness theorems, where you’re dealing with partiality of information. A universe with incomplete information, but built on simple principles, would come up with, likely, just by natural development or an organic development, an associative form of information processing, which is both incomplete but probably the most efficient given its conditions.

Rick Rosner: I think one reason people are fascinated with Gödel incompleteness theorem is that it generates all sorts of objects in the mathematical sphere like propositions that are either true or false, but can never be proven true or false. I think there’s the idea that any axiomatic system that is sufficiently complex will generate weirdly undecidable propositions. So that’s one thing that’s interesting.

It’s scary in that one of the efforts of 100 years ago by Whitehead and some other people was to put mathematics and logic on an unassailable foundation of pure—it was to have an infinitely defendable and concrete system of math with a completely unassailable foundation. That Gödel says, “No, there are always going to be pitfalls and exploding principles and that it introduces the fear that there may some aspect of math that makes math blow up.

That it is fundamentally inconsistent and you can’t prove anything, which is apparently not the case. You may not be able to prove anything to an infinite degree of certainty, but we live in a world that’s highly existent. At the same time, at the smallest scales, it is completely nebulous and fuzzy and only on the borderline of existent. It is only when you get macro objects that you get definite existence.

So even in a Gödelized world where there is not an infinite certainty or precision in anything, you can still build a solid world.

SDJ: Our language reflects that too. When we describe things, they are not complete, but given certain conceptual mappings. They describe something incompletely, but you string a bunch of sentences together that are appropriate to context and that provides a sufficient mapping in the other person’s head based on their interpretation, if similar culture, similar conceptual mappings, similar language to relate to those. But it is incomplete. It is rough.

RR: When you’re trying write, one thing that frustrates me is that when you’re trying to write as precise as possible you’re trying to reach into lexical space for the right word. Sometimes, you can get nearly the right word. Other times, there’s just a missing word.

[End of recorded material]

Authors[1]

Rick Rosner
American Television Writer
RickRosner@Hotmail.Com
Rick Rosner
scott-jacobsen

Scott Douglas Jacobsen
Editor-in-Chief, In-Sight Publishing
Scott.D.Jacobsen@Gmail.Com
In-Sight Publishing

Endnotes

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Footnotes & in-text citations in the interview & references after the interview.
This session article has been edited for clarity and readability.

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American Psychological Association. (2010). Citation Guide: APA. Retrieved from http://www.lib.sfu.ca/system/files/28281/APA6CitationGuideSFUv3.pdf.
Humble, A. (n.d.). Guide to Transcribing. Retrieved from http://www.msvu.ca/site/media/msvu/Transcription%20Guide.pdf.