Wednesday, 8 March 2017

Born to do Math 1 - Networks of Information Spaces

Born to do Math 1 - Networks of Information Spaces
Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner
March 8, 2017

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Scott Douglas Jacobsen: So you have a tattoo that says, “Born to do Math,” as far as I know.

Rick Rosner: Yea, yea, I mean, it’s old. I got it in like 1988, so it is not very legible anymore, but it’s still there.

S: You have a child prodigy history. You have an obsession of numbers. You have a fear of some numbers, apparently. So there’s a deep intimate connection in your life, personal and otherwise, with numbers, and therefore with math and physics. So I want to start a new series called “Born to do Math,” where we just pick a topic and talk about physics and math or we research something beforehand and talk about that. You had an idea. Let’s talk about that.

R: I was thinking about networks of information spaces with an information space as an arrangement of information within physics. Everyone has their own information space, just what they’re thinking about from moment to moment. The connections among these information spaces are simple and weak, very narrow-band. We can only share the information from our information spaces with each other via speech.

I guess water colors, video, but we can’t link information spaces. The links between us are very narrow-band. There’s nothing like a true marriage of minds. So you’ve got these very relatively big information spaces connected very weakly. It could look like the kids’ model of a molecule with Styrofoam balls connected by Q-tips and all of the pretty symbols. But that won’t be how it always is.

There’s a historical trend. It is not going to end for broadband transmission of information. It hasn’t hit the contents of our minds yet, but it will be looking at the way things are progressing. Eventually, that will permit complicated connections among human information spaces. Plus, we’ve got this AI future coming, where some people think there will be a billion—not a billion, a trillion—information spaces.

S: You’re talking about Chris Cole’s extrapolation and theory.

R: Yea, I assume his thinking reflects a lot of expert thinking. There’s going to be a mess of AI. Some will be trivial. Some will be connected to humans, to turbo-charge human information processing. Some of them will be massive on their own. They’ll be connected to each other in increasingly complicated ways. Where you’ll be able to have something like true marriages of minds, which will look in the geometry of information spaces, like not simple.

Then you can look at the rest of the universe with its 10^22 stars with an average of 1 planet per star. It is not unreasonable to think there are a butt load of places where consciousness originated and has been around a lot longer than we’ve been around. Those places must have at least a bunch of globby connected spaces, not to mention all of the other mathematically possible universe. You and I have talked about a ladder of information spaces.

Where each information space has an armature, a container, the hardware for each information space contained in a space beyond the space, which implies a ladder of larger and larger information spaces—but given the idea that they don’t have to be simply connected, what can be simply imagined as a ladder—or more appropriately be imagined as a crazily, bubbly, tangle of information processing entities.

S: With the active input, retrieval, and processing of information, in an information based model of not only human computation but the universe reflecting that, the physics of that, of an information space, will reflect what we see in the universe in its physics. There’s a parallelism there.

R: Yea, I imagine—You and I, I think, imagine—the active conscious center of an information space has physics looking similar to what we look at when we look out into the universe, and that nodes where you’re receiving information are likely centered on galaxies, centered on the center of galaxies—where you have these black hole like structures with masses of a million stars on up—could easily—not easily but could reasonably—be hypothesized to be the pipelines where information goes in and out to other linked sources of information, whether in the organism itself—with information processing you’re not totally consciously aware of the processing sploots out of the black holey thing and is processed by the arrangement of information that is the galaxy surrounding the pipeline.

S: So what’s the summary statement?

R: Summary statement: we live in a world of information spaces, where every man, woman is kind of an island with the island being our information space or our consciousness, but in the future we will be connected more complicatedly and intimately—and there’s a math for that. You can imagine an information space model that kind of looks like a universe with the connections being among, along, deep gravitational wells, where those wells represent pipelines for information from other sources.

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Rick Rosner
American Television Writer
Rick Rosner
Scott Douglas Jacobsen
Editor-in-Chief, In-Sight Publishing
In-Sight Publishing
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